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« on: September 14, 2006, 09:28:47 AM »

Hi. I've heard of a technique called "drug of choice" but after an hour of googling I can't find a specific recipe for getting back into the state although there are lots of stories of success...

Many years ago I took ecstasy and had the time of my life. I was in a club and I danced for 3 hours with little stops in between feeling the amazing rush in my whole body. I found that I had empathy with every person around me. Many hugs were given. Since then I've gone to clubs sober and tried to get back into the same state. I will start dancing and enter the world of make believe. I can go into a sort of "dance trance" but my critical mind keeps butting in telling me I'm not on E.

I wonder if anyone can give at least one technique for getting back into the learned state of ecstasy?

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2006, 05:06:46 PM »

Hello

Ok this is maybe one of the easiest patterns that you will come across, for getting into state.

Ok you will want to get a pen and pad, to jot a few thing’s down.

Step one.  Go back in time to the event in question.
Step two. In as much detail as you can, using all your senses, run- through, in as much detail as you can, from taking the drug. till it kicked in, starting to take affect.

So maybe be your heart beat started to quicken, then your body started to tingle, etc, etc, and play attention the sequence, now how many parts that seem to stand out, that create the whole sequence, and now run the sequence, over and over a few times, now play with the sub-modalities, step by step make thing’s bigger and brighter, smaller and dimmer, and you will find the drivers, of the whole sequence.


Now create a sliding anchor and anchor each driver to the slid. And that’s about it.

The more detail and vivid, you can be the grater the impact.

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 08:17:52 PM »

Thank you very very much Jay. You have made my night Grin

I put some hard core techno on and lay back on my couch and got very comfortable. I then accessed the memory. I ran through from start to finish and back 3 times. I felt my body become warm which was close but not totally "there". I was happy enough at that and got back on the computer. I was just looking some things when I noticed a track building and building towards the crescendo and I got a super rush up the back of my legs... up my spine and over the top of my head. I was like OMG! I was THERE! I'm still rushin as I type. I really surprised myself with how well it is working.

Once again thank you Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2006, 08:55:41 PM »

No worries, and your welcome.


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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2006, 04:30:58 PM »

Hi again. I wonder if you can describe for me the steps of sliding anchors. The first time I came across the term was in Richard Bandler's book "Time For a Change". I've read more about them on some sites but I'm still a little confused. Questions such as "do you hold the first spot with the first sensation and then slide onto the next spot before getting the second feeling?" and "is the pressure constant for the entire slide?". I remember seeing Derren Brown get some guy into a drunk state and from what I recall he fired the anchor by moving down his left arm in one sweeping movement and it seemed he was using minimum pressure. This is something I would really like to be able to do.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2006, 05:29:36 PM »

Hi Brian
anchor the first state with a slide a few inches will do fine. Break state . Elicit second state and anchor at point you just stopped at and let that be another few inches.
Do the same again with a third state. Then fire off all the anchors from 3-1 with equal pressure in a straight line. It helps to add vocal sound to the anchor as well. The pressure is not the important thing , it is the timing of setting the anchor in the first place and the degree of state reached when setting it.
If some one has you in trance state when the anchors are set you will get a much bigger response. Theres a lot more to it than I have put here but you can still have a go.

Have fun
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If you want to experience some mind bending trance states see if you can go on Richard Bandlers shamanics workshop in November.  www.meta-nlp.co.uk/
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2006, 06:39:53 PM »

Hi peter.

Thanks for help. Before I anchor anything I want to make sure I get a bigger response than what I have at the moment. I tried the above technique again and got a stronger feeling than before. I got more into the memory. As for the training, it would be great, however I am just at the beginning of the journey of moving house and that is taking up most of my time. Not to mention every penny counts. I did like the sound of the Deep Reflection CD that was recommended on that site though.

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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2006, 07:24:16 PM »

Hi Brian

By the very process of running the pattern over and over, in and of it’s self an anchor, now we can do a little jumping, if you can get the state at it’s peek, in that moment press your finger and thumb together, then you can cut out the slid, and just have one anchor for the whole. Now while your in that peek place if you make the whole thing, just a little bigger #and brighter, then anchor that. Keep it for a while, and ask yourself, what could I add to make it better? And I am sure you can work out, just what you can add and blend other part or whole other states.

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2006, 05:52:06 PM »

Hi Brain

You have been given some good techniques here, just wanted to include the critical mind, that keeps butting in telling you your not on E. If you become aware of it while your enjoying your dance trance, you could thank that part of your mind for reminding you and relish in the fact that you are free of E’s.

Enjoy 

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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2006, 07:25:58 PM »

Hi Anna. I've thanked many parts of me over the years but the annoying ones used to always keep coming back. They really affected my life for a long time. Even if I thought about doing something about them they would just sneer. Well I've taken a different step in the last few days that is having a much more desirable affect on me. When johnny annoyance spews his crap I just say "shut the **** up!". When I first tried it I got the dreaded "oh no! what if I'm upsetting that part" and I would feel bad Sad. Well I just tell that part to shut up to. Doing this makes me feel a hell of a lot stronger and more determined to get the things I want. I have more energy and I'm far more relaxed. My life suddenly has passion in it. I've been thinking of moving house for the last 3 years and now I'm finally doing it. The way I see it life can only get better. Grin

Brian
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2006, 04:15:05 AM »

Hi Brian

Shut the **** up works for me too, it makes me laugh, Sometimes I Sing Happy Birthday to my self, this also works, as it interrupts my trail of thought completely. Good luck with your house move, as you say things can only get better

Anna  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2006, 10:08:22 AM »

Thanks Anna. I did the happy birthday song to try it out... Cheesy. I then changed the tonality to a higher tone... Cheesy. Then I sang it out of tune... Cheesy Cheesy. Then I... well the list goes on Grin

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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2006, 01:14:27 AM »

hmmm, depending on what you imagined, from that particular eccstatic day, ...when you had put on the same set of clothes, reimagine yourself halluceating your waaaay into the same exact atmospheric conditions. All at once, when you muster up a vibe of that good feeling, realize that you've only just begun, into what's about to be the best day of your life, when you are realizing that you can experience eccstacy without external drugs... Now, depending on how you would have yourself remember in a moment, the way in which you tricked your body into having this experience, but visualizing how you had taken it... Now, ...you seem like someone who would believe strongly in the plecebo effect &/or homeopathy, so begins an experiment within yourself

Since you've already mustered up enough of an eccstacy buzz by now, that could concievably be used in a homeopathic tincture, or even imbue some of this energy into a pill of some sort; preferably one with one that you don't think it would've given you psychoactive effects... But, as soon as you think you are going to take this, have a little voice in the back of your mind that says OH ***T, if I can re-experience this eccstacy without external drugs, will I ever even be able to come down!? ...push those thoughts aside, because the eccstacy knows the answer to that question; and as it wells up inside you, realize that you've only just begun!

As your body starts reacting to this perceived drug, and just as you realized you can send love to every cell in your body with one inkling of love; imagine what you can experience when you apply that same exact strategy for this inkling of eccstacy! ...and remember you can set an anchor as it wells up inside you right before the bursting point

On a side note, I've had great luck with using actual atmospheric projections. I remember many times when I had smelled what I thought was psychoactive smoke, and was instantly transported back to having the same exact experience I had had last time I had experienced it (I'm extreeeemly sensitive to contact highs, what can I say); ...only to realize later that it was actually my body's reaction to a certain smell. I've even randomly woken up in this experience before. Just imagine what that'd be like! LOL
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