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rollthered
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« on: September 21, 2006, 02:38:28 PM »

what if you could just be yourself? All day long ........everyday.....your true self.

 Maybe you can?

Just you nothing else.Nothing added. Raw. Simple. True. No game. No gameplan. Just YOU. Roll Eyes As YOU are. Here. Now. Open and true.

And....what if being 'you'...was enough?

Maybe....it is enough?

just a thought..
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2006, 03:48:31 PM »

Hello

The philosophy of being one self, the art and science of being detached from the place we call home. “WE” = Humans, Home = Body”, we can only be who we are, and even when psychological misshapes occurs, in the form of mental illness, then we are and can only be who we are, in that time and place. It’s only when we going looking for not us, and are classified as being not us, it seems that’s when issues occur, what we think we become, on some level, ever physically or mentally on some level of abstraction.

“I am who I am, I am all, and nothing, I am a god, a prince, a rich man and a poor man; I am life, and death, I am the showdowns, and the light, I am the path, and the foot step, that walks on, I am the heart beat, the battle cry, I am the warrior, and the slave, I am the giver and the taker, I am the anger and hurt, and the whisper in the wind, I am the protector and the lover  of man kind, I am who I am, just “ME”

Your post is a wonderful set of thoughts, and it’s a shame that a host of people look out side them selves, for something that can only be found, in the comfort of there own mind-body.

We can only be who we are in any given moment. It’s just so.

With Love

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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2006, 06:00:28 PM »

Hi,
you're question is a good one. The only one that needs to be asked by everyone in their lifetime.
you mention "what if you could just be yourself"
That implies that there are two of you? That's dualism (illusion in action). Who asks the question,and where does the reply come from?
Your thoughts end with "maybe it is enough".
From a realization of oneness, there is no maybe, there is no enough, as all is one. 'maybe' and 'enough' are both friends of duality. In the other state there is only the Beloved.
No more searching, no more wanting, no more desire,no more questions, no more separation, no more pain.

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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2006, 06:52:05 PM »

Hey Peter....
 You asked me...who asks the question? Outer me does...

Who answers it? Inner me does.

I understand your principle of oneness- of there being no divison, being all that you ever were, are, and ever will be, and all derived from oneness....all things from the one energy pool.....yet I have a truth of my own, which may not be your truth, and isnt derived from a theory or a premise I have read..and isnt one I have formulated until these words have been typed...

but this is my truth-

my truth is that I am natural spirit and conditioned spirit. There is a duality. There is a struggle. There is a person who raises thoughts in my head and another who answers them. My thought stream is not a monlogue, but a discussion between two opposing belief sytems, one conditioned by known living, one a natural inner guide. Both an instinctive me and a conditoned me. An outer me and an inner me. The inner me trying to grow and claim and spread into the outer me allotment, until the 'me' presented to the world, the outer me that has learned conditioning, and the 'rules' of life as played by the majority...is disposessed of its space...and then I am truelly one. I am then the true me- the iner person, both outside and inside. Not just glimmers of me. Flashes. But a continuous burning flame of one 'me.

If there is only one- then why the struggle to truelly be raw and exposed? It would be effortless.  For me it takes a conscious mindfullness, not to be clever but to be true. It is easier to present outwardly what is accepted, then to venture unconventionally for the inside person who's true worth may not be valued in the way commodities are gauged.

Perhaps when the inner me, has taken its rightfull postion within me- will the duality cease....but my truth, while it may no be yours, my truth is that there is a duality- there is the me asking the questions that is the carrier of the spirit and there is the 'me' that is the spirit. There is the spirit and the vessel which carries it..There is the actor in the movie who is  the engager, and the viewer, who watches the engager and guides it. The engager doesnt always listen to the guide.

The duality for me exists. It creates my learning, as I put the 'me', the natural state, back into the 'me' that I have allowed to be conditioned by the world.

When I say 'maybe' me is enough...it may not be enough for the conditioned world that may like 'me' to be something else....but maybe 'me' is enough for 'me'.? And maybe that it is so, IS enough for 'me'. It is all that the real, true, inner me seeks ...it seeks to be fulflled. It seeks to fill the space that 'i', the being takes up. My flesh and blood, sinews and bones seek Just to be FILLED- FULL of inner 'me'.


my truth is only my truth- words are incapable of fully expressing the unconscious...but that is a flavour of how it feels....how it feels to 'me-me' at least Wink

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2006, 05:40:53 AM »

Dear Rollthered
thank you for having the courage to share your truth with us as you currently feel it to be.
Following in your heart will always be a lone journey, no one can walk your path for you and each invitation will be unique and right for that person.

enjoy your path and shine along the way to inspire others with your inner truth, all paths lead to the same source and the same truth, Love and the diversity of one.

Love
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2006, 08:19:27 AM »

Hi Guys,

I was reading the post and was inclined to share this. It is something I picked up from a poster a while ago and thought it might be interesting for those of you who haven't come across it already.

I AM ME
IN ALL THE WORLD THERE IS NO ONE ELSE EXACTLY LIKE ME
EVERYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF ME IS AUTHENTICALLY MINE
BECAUSE I ALONE CHOSE IT – I OWN EVERYTHING ABOUT ME
MY BODY, MY FEELINGS, MY MOUTH, MY VOICE, ALL MY ACTIONS
WHETHER THEY BE TO OTHERS OR TO MYSELF – I OWN MY FANTASIES,
MY DREAMS, MY HOPES, MY FEARS – I OWN ALL MY TRIUMPHS AND
SUCCESSES, ALL MY FAILURES AND MISTAKES. BECAUSE I OWN ALL OF ME, I CAN BECOME INTIMATELY ACQUAINTED WITH ME – BY SO DOING
 I CAN LOVE ME AND BE FRIENDLY WITH ME IN ALL MY PARTS – I KNOW
THERE ARE ASPECTS ABOUT MYSELF THAT PUZZLE ME AND OTHER
ASPECTS THAT I DO NOT KNOW – BUT AS LONG AS I AM
FRIENDLY AND LOVING TO MYSELF I CAN COURAGEOUSLY
AND HOPEFULLY LOOK FOR THE SOLUTIONS TO THE PUZZLES
AND FOR WAYS TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT ME – HOWEVER I
LOOK AND SOUND, WHATEVER I SAY AND DO, AND WHATEVER
I THINK AND FEEL AT A GIVEN MOMENT IN TIME IS AUTHENTICALLY
 ME – IF LATER SOME PARTS OF HOW I LOOKED, SOUNDED, THOUGHT
 AND FELT, TURN OUT TO BE UNFITTING, I CAN DISCARD THAT WHICH IS
UNFITTING, KEEP THE REST AND INVENT SOMETHING NEW FOR THAT
WHICH I DISCARDED – I CAN SEE, HEAR, FEEL, THINK, SAY AND DO.
I HAVE THE TOOLS TO SURVIVE, TO BE CLOSE TO OTHERS, TO BE PRO-
DUCTIVE, AND TO MAKE SENSE AND ORDER OUT OF THE WORLD OF
PEOPLE AND THINGS OUTSIDE OF ME – I OWN ME AND THEREFORE
I CAN ENGINEER ME – I AM ME AND
I AM OK 


Namaste,

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2006, 08:50:33 AM »

Hi andy
that's a really great example of diversity in action. It will describe to many how they feel before realization that there is two and not one.
Who is the 'I' and who is the me? the answer is the 'I' is the mind and the 'me' is also the mind. It's the mind playing the game of two. Believing that it exists as the centre of everything,and that I am here, and you are over there not realizing that it IS everything and there is no here and there! There is no you and me. We are one and the same in different bodies.
Which is absolutely fine, that's cool it's a great game. If the notion of two did not exist we could not play this beautiful game called life.
However there is the real you which is beyond what ever the mind can come up with. It's what you actually are, consciousness.
Consciousness is everything and nothing at the same time. It is beyond time and space and yet is time and space.
You could not read this now if you were not conscious, stands to reason, but who/what is reading this?
consciousness is aware of reading this. Because consciousness wrote it.
We are all the same source manifesting as diversity.
Love.

Peter
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2006, 06:11:07 AM »

I am myself, i am sure i never changes sex, names or birthdays etc, so i am convinced i am me. if i look in the mirror i see me, if i look inside, yep, still same heart, blood, lungs, definatley me. I am happy with me, which is a brilliant thing cause i have to live with me till i no longer live  Wink
Ok bath time for me, and whilst i clean the ouer me, i will also relax, go inside and as i wash those endolphins from the tip of my toes to the tip of my nose, i will make sure they have a duster in their hands so they can clean the inner me  Smiley
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