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« on: June 24, 2009, 07:16:38 AM »


I have been listening to all the relationship audios as I had a wake up call this last weekend that I have been an idiot for quite a while. For about 18 months if not longer I have had very close friends who are girls where nothing really happened yet for all effective purposes they were my girlfriends (time wise, closeness etc). I never really took it further as I always created reasons why it wouldn?t work.

I have never had trouble finding women, in fact, they seem to fall for me quite easily (mainly 'cos I am nice, honest, fun I guess). However, I have always been reluctant to go out with girls and more often than not just remained friends with them over letting anything else happen unless it was really casual sex type thing.

I identified that I have always had a huge list of things a perfect partner must have and I always seem to look at the person's negative points and how it could result in a break up further down the line than accepting their good points.

What I want to know is, if you focus on loving someone for who they are and you enjoy spending time with them, does that mean you should go out with them? I am easy going and get on well with almost everyone and can actually love people just for who they are (well....everyone except someone i plan on going out with it seems...oh dear!)

If I I did the above then I feel I could make almost any relationship work. Does that make things seem way too easy?..........What about my very long list!?.......ha!.........What does things such as common interests etc play a part??do they?

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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 06:57:14 PM »

do you expect yourself to be perfect too?  Are you hard on yourself as well?
Are you unwilling to accept your own flaws? It can be pretty hard to take when
you realize that the expectations you have for others you yourself cannot uphold.

accept yourself . . . then you'll be able to open yourself to others . . .

we are so ultra-human . . . and it's okay . . . we just keep learning and learning.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2009, 01:27:32 AM »

Hi,

Good point actually, I am always striving to become the very best in every area of my life...... I am guessing that is a search for perfectionism......I will investigate thie area....

Thanks

Ben
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 08:12:01 PM »

Hi Ben,

I  felt compelled to share my experience with you in hopes that this might be helpful.

After dating many men, but not having found the perfect one (and knowing what I really wanted was the relationship with the man I would grow old with), I decided to commit to the man I was dating at the time. 

Early in our relationship, this man asked me: what if someone better comes along? -  I answered that I am sure someone better will come along, but I have chosen him! 

This doesn't mean that there weren't plenty of times  (especially at the beginning of the relationship) when I wanted to jump ship.  There have been lots of pivotal moments in our relationship, and at one of them, I called a girlfriend to tell her that I was going to end my relationship, and she said to me,
"Wendy, you can?t just leave the relationship everytime you don?t get what you want."  And she was so right!

Something my partner said (when asked if he missed dating other women) was that he knows what it is like to be in a new relationship for a few months or even for a year, but he was excited to find out what it would be like to be with the same woman for 12 years.

Now, coincidentally, 12 years later, we have two lovely sons, and I am more in love and more commited to him than I ever was in the first years of our relationship.

Again, I hope this was helpful.

Looking forward to hearing about your new commitment Smiley,
Wendy
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 09:15:07 PM »

Yeah.  It's quite easy to find faults if you look hard enough.  But bear in mind - everybody has got their own ideas of what 'faults' are, and that makes things more exponentially complicated!

But what I'll say is if you catch yourself listing faults/seeking out perfections... don't make such a big deal about it.  First, just offer yourself an alternative: 'just how many faults/perfections will I find before I would feel satisfied?'  'Is there any reason to suspect that the faults are so important to me because of the way I am reacting to those faults?'  'Could I end up loving this person anyway?' (I reckon that last one is the strongest...)

Remember, don't insist to yourself that you NEED to think this way.  Just offer these suggestions to yourself when you get the chance and experiment with what happens.  If it doesn't work, again, it doesn't matter.  It just means that something different needs to be played with.

BTW - this be my first post.  Hi everyone Smiley.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 06:24:58 PM »

James, welcome to the forum Smiley

Ben, one day a lady will knock you off your feet, and you wont find any faults in her. I believe that if your finding faults in all the ladies you have met so far, then basically none of them have been suitable for you. Live your life, love will one day knock at your door when your least expecting it Smiley


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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 05:34:17 AM »

Yes, welcome to the forum, James.

And Ben, I wish I wrote what Michelle wrote, because she hit it right on!  The woman of your dreams will knock you off your feet! 

My husband is and was always perfect too.

Thank you, Michelle, for reminding me  Smiley

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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 12:25:49 PM »

here's my prediction.....there will be a girl to come along and knock your feet out from under you and she won't have anything on your list.

Smiley  have fun!

go for chemistry, forget the list.

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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 02:55:13 PM »

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My question for people who have a really exacting idea of the "perfect mate is....

really?

if that person really shows up....
won't you be bored?


how amazingly predictable and staid will they be?
where is the spontaneity?
where is the part that "they" are allowed to be "they".



I went out with a girl a few times and we seemed to be great together... it was going along really well...
and then....
there was that "oh shit" moment....
something about me that was apparently un-workable (I am bisexual).
 she ended it and thanked me  - she had one more thing that she had to add to her list she said....
I fit EVERY OTHER CRITERIA on her list....
I am impossible to find. i am the one in a million....

but...
she has a deeper relationship with her list than she did with me.




kinda sad actually,




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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2009, 05:33:12 PM »

Just add those things to your list:
Unpredictable
Spontaneous
Adventurous
Independent

It works!

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2009, 04:41:02 AM »

Thank you all for your postings.........I am off to Portugal for a few days in the usn next week and will look into it all a bit more.............

In the meantime I will keep on this 30 day challenge and await being swept off my feet.......though I have a broken rib from rugby so hope she is gentle..........ha......

Thank you all

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2009, 09:23:55 PM »

Becoming happy, fulfilled, peaceful inside and at ease in my own life is the prescription I've applied to me.

I keep the list, but a short one of things that I want to share with someone, not things I want to get from them.

The benefit of this system as I have put it to the test in my life, is whether or not someone comes along, I get to be happy, fulfilled, peaceful and at ease


...and that is ok by me

(interesting I had to live 50 years trying to find love to understand that love is what I am made of and not something I will ever 'get')

love,

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2009, 10:34:49 PM »

The Amish have a saying, "Pray, and move your feet."

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2009, 02:59:26 PM »

Hi Ben,

Thanks for sharing.  You might want to try something that I put to use that I learned from John DeMartini... for me it was transformative.  It involves using your list again but bear with me!!  Wink

Make sure the list you have is full of all the incredible traits, qualities and characteristics that you look for in a girl.  And then go through each and every trait and under each one, make a list of every person in your life (any age and either sex, maybe knowing her/him personally, maybe indirectly, maybe in the present or the past) who possesses that trait, quality or characteristic to the degree that you would seek in your ideal girl.  And for each trait on your list, you do this until you've really exhausted the options and you know without a shadow of a doubt that you already possess that trait in your life and in fact are surrounded by sometimes a shocking number of people who possess it.  Write people's names after each trait/characteristic until you get to a 'wow' point of realization that you've been so blessed with people who possess that trait.  At the end of your list, you'll have pages of people in your present or past who all emanate all the qualities you're searching for. 

For me it was an incredibly powerful exercise because I realised (on a 'feel it in my gut' sort of level) that actually I already possessed every trait I have ever valued and desired in life.  In fact each trait I sought in my ideal partner was everywhere around me!  And THEN the shift can happen: the paradigm shift here is that you realize that you... (can you hear the drumroll)... need nothing.  You HAVE it already.  You don't need another person to make you complete.  You ARE complete.

The result for me was that for weeks after doing this I really felt this complete shift of energy in my body: an energy of not "needing", an energy of already being complete, and knowing that I didn't have to look for it because it was already mine (just in a form that I didn't recognize - being dispersed through all the important people in my life instead of in one person). 

And the EVEN MORE incredible thing was that a few weeks after doing this, after having been single and thinking I needed a partner for five years... I found one, it was fireworks between us, and we've been together ever since.  My date that night WAS my list, and I still look back in awe as it's still true.

But you don't do the exercise to GET a girlfriend.  You do it to learn that you don't need one.  And then, paradoxically, you're more likely to get one. 

Enjoy the exercise! 

p.s. and a few things that you mentioned about 'perfection', I'd encourage you to check out DeMartini's books - The Breakthrough Experience is a great base of his work, and has a very good relationships chapter too.

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2009, 11:30:18 AM »

Hi Ben


Have you ever thought about the idea of just not thinking? While I ramble on keep that in mind.

We guys are some what simple folk- you ask and girly type and they will tell you. 

Yet at the same time we need more than fire, beer and meat to occupy our days- now we have to deal with a fast paced world and the long gone are the days where we used to go out and fight a saber toothed badger- you can make lists short and long, yet if you write a list you have just a list- you know the type of people you get along with and you know the type of people you don't want to associate with..

So what if you just dropped any agenda when you are going out and just go out to have fun, and to make everyone you meet feel good just for the hell of it- by doing that you drop the need to play games with yourself, and anyone else and in time just by doing that you will attract the right people in to your life.

If you have never read this book "The art of war" by Sun Tzu you might make it a book to add to your reading list- if you us it as a metaphor- it holds a simple yet life changing set of principles, ideas, concepts, frames of mind that will serve you well.

So here are some questions to ponder in your own personal time.

1.  What does that mean to you?
2.  What other meanings could it have?
3.  What meanings would support that even further?
4.  What do you believe about that?
5.  How have you framed that?
6.  What frame of mind does that lead to?
7.  What?s your conclusion about that?
8.  What?s your generalization about that?
9.  What do you now realize about that?
10.  Do you have permission to have this fully and completely?
11.  Do any parts of you object to that? 
12.  Do you appreciate that? 
13.  Are you fully aligned with that?
14.  What do you feel about that?
15.  How does that make you feel?
16.  What significance does that have?
17.  What is the value of this?
18.  What?s important about that?
19.  What state do you need to feel for that to happen?
20.  Who do you want to become?
21.  Is this, what defines you?
22.  Is this who you want to be?
23.  What is feeding that frame?
24.  Have you made a decision?
25.  What do you remember about that?
26.  What do you imagine about that?
27.  What?s your intention?
28.  Is that, who you are?
29.  What?s your conclusion?
30.  What value does it have?
31.  What?s important about that?
32.  What stops you?
33.  How does that feel to you?
34. How do you want to feel?


Q1. Are these your beliefs or those of someone else?

Q2. Are your beliefs based upon experience?

Q3. Can you think of a time in your life when your belief system was challenged by reality?

Q4. Have your beliefs ever kept you from achieving your goals?

Q5. Are certain themes reflected in your beliefs?

Q6. Are you willing to change one or more of your beliefs if they are obstacles to your goals?

Q7. Are your beliefs serving a useful purpose?
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