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« on: September 08, 2007, 11:18:52 PM »

Hi Geniuses,

I am 43 year old and i still don't know what i want to do when i grow up!!

I am in a well paying job but find myself dragging my feet to work.

I like reading self enrichment or personal development books but can anyone make a career out of it?

Can anyone shed some lights as to how i can initiate a change in the right direction?

Any thoughts will be a catalyst...
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2007, 03:47:21 AM »

Starting point - NEVER EVER grow up !
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2007, 05:22:47 PM »

Hi Andrew,

how long have you been in your job? "Dragging your feet to work" doesn't sound like it's a new, challenging position, but rather like something that you've been doing for ages and that you know inside out and do on auto pilot...
 
Depending on your definition of being grown up, I think Mark has a point Smiley in a sense that you should maybe pay more attention to what you do and what you like and what you have fun doing and what you are interested in - like a child that is discovering the world by going through life with wide open eyes, trying to take in everything and to learn something new every day.
Be aware of everything you do and how it makes you feel - notice what makes you happy and what you love doing - and then do more of that! You mention your age in the same sentence as growing up - that sounds like you feel you're in a hurry and you "have to" find out a meaning of life soon... Smiley Maybe you have been grown up for too long already without noticing?

You're asking for help how to change into the right direction - do you know what your "right direction" is? That's the hard part, to find that out for yourself. Nobody can tell you that. Once you know and you're sure about it, you're already half way there! You can try to find out by making a list of 200 things that you enjoy, that you like to do, that you like to have in your life. Yes, 200! Then mark the 20 top ones that you like to have in your life regularly and then pick 3 that you want to have in your life every day!
This might give you something to start with. Something to compare your life or your current job to. Maybe you find out everything is exactly as you want it to be and you don't need to "grow up" :-) Or maybe you'll find out little things where you can start to make changes...

Good luck!
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 02:20:21 AM »

Thanks Anja and Mark for replying. Yes, it would be good to keep the child like quality of a sense of wonder and newness that children bring to their world every moment. I find myself being very adult most of the time especially at work. In that sense, Anja, you are right to say that i have grown up way before this already..for better or for worst : ). Any tips on how to keep that childlike wonder alive more of the time?

I have tried various ways to discover what i like doing most. I like self-development topics of any sort. I have got myself certified in NLP just out of interest. But I am not sure if i can develop a career in the field of personal development or if indeed this will make me happy.

I agree that no one can decide for me what is best...i guess i am wanting to find out if there are any method out there that you may know of to help me explore various options that i can take and to have a better sense of being sure of my choices.

As to my top 3 thing i love doing, they are reading personal development books, having meaningful conversation and listening to music. Any ideas what kind of work will allow me to do this? Other than doing more of these things in my daily life as it stands now...

Any books on this subject that you guys can recommend?

Andrew
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2007, 11:19:55 AM »

Any tips on how to keep that childlike wonder alive more of the time?

You know how people who are being told they only have a certain amount of time left to live suddenly appreciate a simple tree? Or someone who's about to go to prison suddenly appreciates the blue sky?

When I heard this for the first time, years ago, I promised myself to notice these things every day. You don't have to wait for bad news in order to find out what you enjoy most, or who you most enjoy spending your time with. Just imagine the world would end in a month's time. What would you do in the time you have left? Where would you travel, who would you want to see one last time, what would you try out that you always wanted to do, but kept putting off?

Also, maybe in your self development books you have read about how important it is to be grateful (have you read about the Law of Attraction? It says there that by being grateful for some things you reinforce the positive energy and attract more of it). Sit down once and think which things/people in your life you are grateful for. If you do that once really consciously, maybe later, whenever you see those people or those nice things happen, you get reminded and become aware and you will be grateful again instantly.

Do you write? I do. I'm not a published writer or anything (actually yes, 55 words!!! Wink ) but I wrote a piece once on how we take everything for granted and how we have forgotten to be amazed about certain things. As children we are amazed that i.e. those heavy airplanes can fly, but as soon as we grow up and learn about physics and figure out how it works, they lose their magic. But it's still special, isn't it, considering about a 100 years ago flying was still a dream?
I went to the beach one day very early in the morning, and saw thousands of seagulls there, sleeping. A sight that I had never seen before in my life. It occured to me in that moment that - while I had always wanted to live by the beach, where the seagulls are - I had never wondered where they sleep! If they had nests, and if so, where??? I was really mad with myself in that moment Smiley that I had forgotten about such a simple thing - about the seagulls that were so important to me and that surrounded me every day... That's when I sat down and wrote the piece about them and all kinds of other things that we don't notice anymore and take for granted. It's one of my favourite pieces I ever wrote and I read it every now and then, just for myself Smiley

Maybe you would enjoy that exercise, too. Sit down and just notice things around you and write them down. Even if you just make a list, rather than a story. I also sat in a cafe once and just wrote down all the different sounds that I heard. I can tell you there are a lot!! Maybe that will make you more sensitive for observations about your environment and yourself... I don't know. It's just something I did and liked and it seemed to work.
 
You say you tried various ways to find out what you want ? can you maybe share some? Also, it sounds like you have read way more books on the subject than I did - if you can recommend any, please do!

I did like the excercises in Michaels first book ?You can have what you want?. The other one I have only just started? I also listened to the ?Get the Edge? CD?s of Anthony Robbins, but there?s a little too much talking for my taste... I think he could have easily consolidated the 7 CD?s into 1. But still, you might get something out of them. I remember just listening to him uplifted and motivated me. Even though the motivation stopped as soon as the CD was finished, while I was listening I felt good! ;-)

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As to my top 3 thing i love doing, they are reading personal development books, having meaningful conversation and listening to music. Any ideas what kind of work will allow me to do this?
How about opening a record store or becoming a radio dj Smiley You might be able to have meaningful conversations in both, and time to read self development books, too Smiley


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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 02:40:44 AM »

Thanks so much Anja for taking the time to write. You are indeed a good "listener"...cos i really feel heard when i read your reply.

Yes, gratitude is a good place to start. And yes, i have read "the law of attraction", "the secret", "ask and it is given" and "amazing power of deliberate intent".

On the topic of career, i am reading Barbara Sher's "Live the life you love". "What colour is your parachute" is also good. Ideas suggested in these books are good but they remain in the realm of ideas.

I have been listening to Michael's radio program and what i like about it is that he place emphasis on taking immediate action, albeit small ones. (I think if Michael is reading this, he would be suggesting two exercises for me to get going right away and come back and share them in this forum...haha). People, including myself, have the tendency to over analyse. Until we try it out, what we mentally think we know may be very different. I guess in taking aciton, our whole person (including the body) gets to experience the effects of a certain idea that we may have.

Amazing, i did at one point (many many years ago) entertain the idea of opening a record shop. And yes, DJ-ing has cross my mind too!. I have since made a decision to explore other route and told myself that they would not be something that if i do not pursue will lead to regret later on in life. I have made peace with the two fantasies so to speak.

Hmmm.. what other actions can i take??


Andrew


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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 06:15:17 PM »

Thanks for the compliment, Andrew!
Wow, looks like my intuition is really sharp these days, yay Smiley Or, the combination of the things you mentioned doesn't leave much room for anything but those two careers Wink

I'm handing over to professional coaches now..

Anja Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2007, 07:49:54 AM »

Well hello!
And welcome to your life.
To answer your question if anyone can make a living from the things you love...well the people whose books you read, do!
and the people whose music you listend to...some of them are doing very well!
So the question becomes what?s next? Where do you go from here?
Career development and creative careering is a really interesting process.
Personally, I am bringing coaching tools and constructive thinking into music?self development in songs-
I work as a life coach witnessing the transformational process of people creating great lives for themselves and I write music.

I have been in business for a few years in the licensing industry to feel part of the business world, know what a ?real job? and a ?career? is like.
Now I use my passion for getting people to move forward in life and performing- I love being on stage- being ?on? and allow the good life to evolve around it.
If you like listening to some stuff and give me some feedback- www.divaeve.com the music on my site is not the latest stuff ( yet)but it gives you a feel!
Or itunes of course?you know you don?t even have to do it all on your own?there are people out there who are looking for people to join their teams and build something grand?.l Wink
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2007, 10:16:00 AM »

Pleaseeeeeee dont grow up, it looks so boring... i ams sure its so much more fun to stay young  Wink

My suggestions would be Time line... Oh how i love time lines, they are awesome, go play with them, have fun and build the future you really want and look back over it and see how you got there, make it really big and bright, see what you see, hear what you hear, feel what you feel, make it huge, sharpen the colours, the sounds, really step into it and feel it..  take it from the tip of your nose down to your toes... play with it, adding in exactly what you want to be in there..

Yunno amything is possible in life, just believe in yourself and you know how to do that dont you?

Playtime  Grin

Namaste
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2007, 12:09:28 PM »

Thanks guys/gals for sharing!

Diva, i like yoga-babe alot. really unique. Am afraid to say i like smelly armpits, well no on the internet at least.. Cheesy. Did you do the arrangement of the music as well? Cool!

Michelle. Can timeline be done on our own? Hei, how about timelining me via the forum? Though it could be tough to read an be in a trance at the same time.. Smiley will see if i can get someone to do it with me..maybe my nlp classmates can help..thanks for suggesting..it is a good idea..

Two action in the coming week for me:

1. look for a singing coach
2. call a friend for timeline

Cheers pals
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2007, 06:16:30 AM »

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Pleaseeeeeee dont grow up, it looks so boring... i ams sure its so much more fun to stay young 

Michelle, that line really goes with both your picture and your name  Cheesy

What's timelining? Do you have any good excercises to share? (I'm still a bit NLP-ignorant...)

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2007, 06:05:37 PM »

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Pleaseeeeeee dont grow up, it looks so boring... i ams sure its so much more fun to stay young 

Michelle, that line really goes with both your picture and your name  Cheesy

What's timelining? Do you have any good excercises to share? (I'm still a bit NLP-ignorant...)

Anja

awwwww shucks ty  Kiss

TimeLines are totally awesome, i could type loads to explain how to do them etc though truley the best thing is to do one, find some who knows how to do them, by a dvd if you have to and work the magic, i am sure it wont have the same effect by reading it. They are wonderfully empowering and fun to do.... so do yourself a favour and yell out to someone to have a playtime.

You will enjoy it  Wink

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