Mainstream or Dark Art ?

[marksherwood]

Hi all,

Let me start by saying that i have no views one way or the other on this subject. I am just interested in 'what the panel thinks'

12 months ago, if you went to any employment site (monster, gojobs, etc) and typed NLP into the job criteria or search engine you would have come up with a big zilch, nothing, nadda !

However,

Try it out today, more and more businesses are 'recognising' NLP and actually placing NLP as part of the 'competencies' for job roles ( I have copied a couple of examples into the 'situations vacant' thread on Gemius Catalyst.

My question is this (just out of interest) :

NLP - Lets go mainstream, or, lets keep it a dark art ?

As i said, i have no views either way, just interested in what the panel think.

Cheers,

Mark

 

[martinh]

Mainstream.

I'm working at a very conservative financial institution at the moment, and they have a training company in doing one day NLP trainings, following up with sending one or two people to Paul McKenna Training and seeing how it goes.

Bring it on, the more the merrier.

Cheers,

Martin.

[marksherwood]

Hey Martin,

Zoom yourself into the future, a future where every company / organisation has its own in house NLP specialist.

What are your thoughts about NLP in that future becoming 'watered down' ?

Like i said in the earlier post, i have no views either way, just wondered what the panel thought

Cheers,

Mark

[11:11]

Greetings,

by bringing this and/or other 'less understood' ideas to the mainstream would imply that a dark art needs light. Which then allows one to make the assumption that the mainstream is light when it's mostly 'lighting'.

The dark art needs light, of course, but I think that it comes from you/us, and only when we know what it can do. It can change a world. There is a concern about the mainstream, though.

The mainstream erases any trace of what was good intent, just after it delivers a life changing meaning to something you've been looking for. Let's use mainstream TV as an example: Does it not completely resemble a Bi Polar individual's mood cycles?

One minute, the average television watcher is happy, sad, furious - then wanting to buy something, and the funny ad makes it all seem right.

Your art can be used to heal the one, which could be the 'all'.

You've posted a significant question.

Danny

[aniinl]

Mainstream.

And I don't think it would be "watered down" by that. I think many management or communication training programs already include NLP stuff, they just don't label it "NLP stuff".
 
Everyone everywhere can benefit from being a better communicator, but that doesn't mean that everyone who learns NLP will become a specialist. Well I didn't in any case , but I'm glad I took the practitioner course and have this knowledge now. Doesn't mean I'm going to cure phobias all day long now or that I'm even able to. If I had practiced every day since the course, maybe I could, but I think NLP is such a wide field that everyone can use it on a different level. Maybe I'd just like to use it to figure people out and to write persuading advertising letters for my new business
Like many people like to draw or paint, but only some are so good or so passionate about it that they make their living with it. Good painters are still special and not mainstream.

Anja

[Clark]

For me, my opinion is that NLP is already mainstream. Maybe not the title "NLP" but many the techniques (visualization, anchoring, rapport, reframing, etc) already are. The techniques can be taught and used without ever mentioning NLP or making NLP into a "commodity" or "religion". There are already tons of books out there on NLP and they all say the same thing. As Anja wrote, it just isn't labeled "NLP stuff" and the power of NLP is in applying it to new areas and oneself. Use the Meta-model on yourself to change/question your own thoughts.

Clark