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Author Topic: How do we find the needle 'world peace' in a belief haystack?  (Read 2727 times)
JamesTheFox
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« on: July 05, 2009, 06:43:44 PM »

Last year I wrote a draft of a book that I lost heart in.  It was about criticising (harshly, but fairly in my mind) education and the way students learn myths about learning itself in the classroom.  Halfway through, it had some alternatives.  But before I could work on the 2nd and would-be final draft for publishing, I came to realise that I was doing exactly what those 'we-think-we-know-what's-best-so-shut-the-hell-up' teachers were doing - fighting fire with fire, and singling out someone to take the blame for the human race's problems.

I did have my reasons, however.  My school life was not exactly peaceful, nor was it at all worthy of my memory, and from my own perspective I believed it was the root cause of all the troubles today: lack of love, forcing yourself through life, kidding yourself, as well as many others... My logic said fix schools, or even do away with them entirely, and you have a possiblity for peace in the world to pass on to coming generations.

I was 18 when I wrote that first draft (I am 19 now) and had I not discovered the right information at the right time, I'd still be a defenceless heart-broken sap forever wondering what the hell happened.  Recently I have come to a similar realisation with the mass media: they, just like the administrators of the education system, are just doing their best in the way they know how.  They may be very close to what I'd call charlatans, but only because they have learned their way into that perspective.  Singling them out is still not a good move in my mind...

I'm trying to get a new message out with another book... well, a series of messages.  It will mostly be all I've learned about Psychology and Objectivity in the past few years (and dun worry Michael, if I mention some of your ideas I'll be sure to credit you Tongue ), plus a few extra things to consider.  I would dive into the realms of science, emotion, evolution, technology and even magic/illusion to show what I mean - that the world would be an amazing place to be born in if everyone learned how to love and be happy whenever they wished.

But I'm having trouble deciding what the 'main message' of the book is going to be.  How on Earth do I do such a thing without singling out groups of people?  How do I say that we are all in this together?  Because the minute I even SAY words like 'religion' 'politics' 'real world evidence' or even 'love' to the ones who've lost it... I am immediately isolating those people either for/against stuff in those areas and lost my emotional connection with them.  What I know is a lot less important than what I actually say, and I genuinely want EVERY human to hear what I want to say..

I could say something like 'I know I could be wrong here' every now and then, but that would not guarantee that the angered reader in question would reconsider my stance.

Because if other people label my writing under a section of 'against this' or 'for that', it gets isolated from others due to their perceptions.  Realistically, is it even possible considering the scale of beliefs out there?

I would like to know what you all think.  How can I offer somebody a new insight as to how they can feel better about their lives without forcing them to try on completely new pairs of shoes?  I really do not want to lose connections with anybody just because they see the world differently...
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 05:07:12 PM »

James, On reading your post, the one clear message that i see is about 'Beliefs'. Religion, politics, love and media are all about 'beliefs'... Maybe the title could be pointing at 'Beliefs' and then each chapter you can question things like the above issues. Though thats sounding very Zeitgeist in some respects, i believe that it can be handled so its not as hard hitting, but very informative. Sometimes to question a persons 'belief' system is ok, as long as you do it in a non judgemental way.. Sometimes, the key is not what people 'believe' in, but what they 'disbelieve' in.

Good luck

Michelle
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 02:20:33 PM »

Hi James,
I love your post.  It really names what we all do as humans--we are all doing our best and sometimes our best doesn't feel good enough.
I have been playing with the paradox that we are all good right now and we can all become better.  I even sometimes stand in the perspective that the world IS an amazing place to be born in AND everyone IS learning how to love and be happy whenever they wish.  The fun thing about this perspective is the more often I stand in it the easier it is to really see the truth in it.

What helps me to really see that ALL of us are good enough is a quote that I think is from Maya Angelou--it goes something like this:  If we knew how to do it better, we would...

Looking forward to reading your book.
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Wendy
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 02:35:33 PM »




If i can ask....
it seems to be you have some anxiety about how "fast" this is happening (or not happening as the case may be... he he)

and so...
how soon do you want this to happen?
do you believe that you are not this as fast as it "should" be happening?

for me... and I am just speaking for me...
the answer comes when I let go of the "dire need" to figure it out "now".

be easy with yourself.

belief.... conditioning is a deep deep well....
the deeper you go... the bigger it gets.
the moment we "believe" that we see the whole of a thing, is the moment we have lost sight.
(again, speaking from my own experience and you may have different).

and to suggest with your issue of the book....
write it ALL out however you want....
(purge)
set it aside for a time....
come back with fresh eyes....
reread it all...
get rid of the stuff that doesn't sing to you anymore.
(refine)



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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 06:25:03 PM »

Maybe something like what I wish they had taught me in the first 12 years of school?  It can be described as these are things I learned since then that could have really helped knowing earlier.  If it's stuff you learned - they can take it or leave it. Additionally - a website tied into it could get others to share their experiences since formal schooling and what they wish they knew then.
Best Wishes!
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 09:58:10 PM »

Thank you all for your generous comments.  You have all given me ideas to play with on this subject Smiley

But I have given this much thought, and I have discovered that writing a book on this sort of thing is not what I intend to do.

Recently I tried to experiment with this sort of thing on a few forums (how we all be a bit kinder to others who believe differently) - I either got approval for thinking such, or rejection because some were cynical, some demanded evidence, some just quoted everything in my post and 'offered' a contradiction, seeing right through my point.

It was after a few attempts at this that I discovered something very important: you can say what you want about how the world is best lived, or you can SHOW people how the world is best lived.

In other words, if I do believe happiness really makes us what we are, I've got to show tangible results, not change through mere words.  Is it okay to say the difference between theory and practice?

I'm not up for going against people's beliefs.  For example, I don't believe in God and I don't think NLP is all that's cracked up to be (even although I used to think like that..).  However, I believe society knows fine well how to solve it's problems but it exploits people anyway and that Michael's perspective on living life needs to be a LOT more mainstream (he's a bloody genius, after I read the first chapter of YCHWYW, I remember saying 'I could give him a medal for that first chapter alone'.)  Some of those beliefs are worth having and some aren't.  Some of my beliefs I like and some I don't... but it does not matter when happiness is more important than beliefs.

I doubt that writing a whole book to change the way people think about the world is the right choice.  I'd rather make them happy instead.

I've got some more ideas in mind.  I might draw more.  I might start looking into good ideas for making video games (tis what I'm studying in Uni).  I might get into illusion as a side hobby if I want to impress a few folk - I love the Psychology behind it all (Derren Brown is my all-time favourite illusionist) But the smaller, easier stuff would be better I think heh Azn

I think those are more important to me.  Some other things are just beyond my control.  Making other people inspired is what inspires me most... making people think about their own ways of life, well, why bother when it's not up to me to judge.

Once again, thank you all for your comments.  I agree, if we knew better we'd do better - same goes with education, questioning beliefs is only easy if you are prepared to be wrong and I will take some time with what I really want.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 06:43:59 PM »


Thanks for sharing...I really enjoyed what you wrote.  And I keep thinking, wow, he is only 19! 
Wishing you lots of fun on your adventures!
Love,
Wendy
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2009, 12:43:42 PM »

Hi can i ask a simple question
Do you have peace within and happiness within ?

love light and blessings
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 10:17:10 PM »

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Hi can i ask a simple question ?
Do you have peace within and happiness within ?

love light and blessings
peter



yes.
I do.
I keep mine in a pretty jar on a shelf.






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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 03:32:31 PM »

Heh, of course I have my happiness within me.  It can't possibly come from anywhere else ;p

It is such a tricky world.  But even if I figured out everything about everything, I would just take the puzzle apart and try to put it back together again.  Kinda makes me wonder if there is nothing to figure out and that I already have the answers.  All of a sudden, the world does not look as tricky anymore.
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